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	<title>Comments on: What is the frost, unholy or blood rotation?</title>
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		<title>By: Aracknight</title>
		<link>http://pwnwear.com/2009/11/05/what-is-the-frost-unholy-or-blood-rotation/comment-page-1/#comment-2034</link>
		<dc:creator>Aracknight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 06:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>knugget, check out my frost spec. I have glyphed into DnD and reduced its cooldown.  DPS find it impossible to pull aggro from me in five mans.  My gear is probably better, but I can pull entire rooms of mobs with no issues.  In ICC10, I hold aggro on the trash groups easily.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Medivh&amp;cn=Aracknight

As far as your aoe rotation, it looks good but make sure you&#039;ve macroed Rune Strike into all your targeted strikes. Look on wowwiki for the exact syntax.

I open like this: DnD, HB, BB, Blood Tap (for extra Blood rune), BB.  I then take a nap while the DPS kill everything.  With DnD on a short cooldown, this works on every pull (minus the BT, which is a longer CD).

I feel strongly that a well-played Frost DK holds group aggro better than even a pally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>knugget, check out my frost spec. I have glyphed into DnD and reduced its cooldown.  DPS find it impossible to pull aggro from me in five mans.  My gear is probably better, but I can pull entire rooms of mobs with no issues.  In ICC10, I hold aggro on the trash groups easily.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Medivh&amp;cn=Aracknight" rel="nofollow">http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Medivh&amp;cn=Aracknight</a></p>
<p>As far as your aoe rotation, it looks good but make sure you&#8217;ve macroed Rune Strike into all your targeted strikes. Look on wowwiki for the exact syntax.</p>
<p>I open like this: DnD, HB, BB, Blood Tap (for extra Blood rune), BB.  I then take a nap while the DPS kill everything.  With DnD on a short cooldown, this works on every pull (minus the BT, which is a longer CD).</p>
<p>I feel strongly that a well-played Frost DK holds group aggro better than even a pally.</p>
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		<title>By: Deathknugget</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deathknugget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tank 5-man heroics only, and have no plans on ICC-5 or raiding right now. I am a HB glyphed 2-hand frost tank. My gear is ok (a mix of rep, crafted, and 2 pieces of T9). I am mostly concerned with AOE tanking. 
My  AOE rotation may look like:
D&amp;D,HB,BB (FS)
OB,OB,BB,BB (FS)
I am looking for advice. I am considering glyphing for Death &amp; decay and specing into Morbidity for extra openning threat? I want to keep Glyph of HB, so I&#039;d have to drop Glyph of Rune strike or Oblidirate, and move point from Scent of Blood (currently 3/3).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tank 5-man heroics only, and have no plans on ICC-5 or raiding right now. I am a HB glyphed 2-hand frost tank. My gear is ok (a mix of rep, crafted, and 2 pieces of T9). I am mostly concerned with AOE tanking.<br />
My  AOE rotation may look like:<br />
D&amp;D,HB,BB (FS)<br />
OB,OB,BB,BB (FS)<br />
I am looking for advice. I am considering glyphing for Death &amp; decay and specing into Morbidity for extra openning threat? I want to keep Glyph of HB, so I&#8217;d have to drop Glyph of Rune strike or Oblidirate, and move point from Scent of Blood (currently 3/3).</p>
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		<title>By: Darkgrip</title>
		<link>http://pwnwear.com/2009/11/05/what-is-the-frost-unholy-or-blood-rotation/comment-page-1/#comment-1411</link>
		<dc:creator>Darkgrip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out  &quot;TellMeWhen&quot; for KM and whatever proc/buff/debuff that suits you.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/tellmewhen.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/tellmewhen.aspx&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out  &#8221;TellMeWhen&#8221; for KM and whatever proc/buff/debuff that suits you.<br />
<a href="http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/tellmewhen.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/tellmewhen.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gravity</title>
		<link>http://pwnwear.com/2009/11/05/what-is-the-frost-unholy-or-blood-rotation/comment-page-1/#comment-1289</link>
		<dc:creator>Gravity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use Shadowed Unit Frames, which has a buff/debuff filter system. I also used Elkano Buffbars. PowerAuras also work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use Shadowed Unit Frames, which has a buff/debuff filter system. I also used Elkano Buffbars. PowerAuras also work.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 18:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I&#039;m wondering if you happen to know any addons that announce when &quot;Killing Machine&quot; procs? I&#039;m looking around curse, but am not really sure what to search for. I&#039;ve just started to DK tank :P

Thanks, Nice write up btw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I&#8217;m wondering if you happen to know any addons that announce when &#8220;Killing Machine&#8221; procs? I&#8217;m looking around curse, but am not really sure what to search for. I&#8217;ve just started to DK tank <img src='http://pwnwear.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks, Nice write up btw</p>
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		<title>By: Gravity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gravity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;d only use it to self-heal as necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;d only use it to self-heal as necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Swan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So with unholy you dont really use death strike at all, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So with unholy you dont really use death strike at all, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Gravity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gravity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t you edit your own comments Hinen, with the various tools the site has; is there an &#039;edit&#039; button? Then no-one would know you made a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t you edit your own comments Hinen, with the various tools the site has; is there an &#8216;edit&#8217; button? Then no-one would know you made a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: hinenuitepo</title>
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		<dc:creator>hinenuitepo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction, and I feel silly now... :) we all make mistakes, though :)
 
NO REAPING.... NO REAPING....
 
my apologies. You still will use all your blood runes, one for pestilence, and the other to refresh desolation.
I&#039;ll have it all straight in my post on my blog.
 
Sorry for the confusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction, and I feel silly now&#8230; <img src='http://pwnwear.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  we all make mistakes, though <img src='http://pwnwear.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
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NO REAPING&#8230;. NO REAPING&#8230;.<br />
 <br />
my apologies. You still will use all your blood runes, one for pestilence, and the other to refresh desolation.<br />
I&#8217;ll have it all straight in my post on my blog.<br />
 <br />
Sorry for the confusion.</p>
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		<title>By: hinenuitepo</title>
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		<dc:creator>hinenuitepo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll have to look back at my posts regarding GOD and see if I&#039;m clear on this.
Here&#039;s the big thing for dps (not sure for tanks since I&#039;ve not tanked with GOD): IF USING GOD, you&#039;re back to reaping.
 
The &#039;normal&#039; 3.2.2 unholy spec doesn&#039;t use reaping or epidemic and refreshes diseases every rune cycle. It&#039;s become very popular for both 2-handed unholy dps and for DW unholy dps.
 
The GOD unholy spec uses reaping. That&#039;s because after you have a nice stack of high-attack power diseases rolling, you don&#039;t want to touch your icy touch or plague strike buttons again for the rest of the fight. They&#039;d &#039;write over&#039; your powerful diseases with less powerful ones.
As Gravity has pointed out, there really isn&#039;t a rotation for this. There&#039;s a priority:
1. Make sure to refresh diseases with pestilence, preferably within about a second of them expiring, but also right before you have to target switch or you get knocked out of melee range.
2. Scourge Strike spam
3. Death Coil if capped
4. Blood Strike any blood rune not reserved for pestilence.
5. Bone Shield should be refreshed when it expires (I usually blood tap immediately after to not lose that unholy rune for my next Scourge Strike)
6. Horn of Winter if you have an empty global cooldown - for the runic power.
 
If you&#039;ve read my blog, you&#039;ll see that I really like this spec. I find I&#039;m doing very comparable dps on single target fights like heroic Northrend Beasts to the &#039;classic&#039; blood single target dps, and if there&#039;s even one add, this is considerably superior.
 
 
Gravity, I like my comment, so I think I&#039;m going to paste it in my blog as well. Thanks for bringing this up :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll have to look back at my posts regarding GOD and see if I&#8217;m clear on this.<br />
Here&#8217;s the big thing for dps (not sure for tanks since I&#8217;ve not tanked with GOD): IF USING GOD, you&#8217;re back to reaping.<br />
 <br />
The &#8216;normal&#8217; 3.2.2 unholy spec doesn&#8217;t use reaping or epidemic and refreshes diseases every rune cycle. It&#8217;s become very popular for both 2-handed unholy dps and for DW unholy dps.<br />
 <br />
The GOD unholy spec uses reaping. That&#8217;s because after you have a nice stack of high-attack power diseases rolling, you don&#8217;t want to touch your icy touch or plague strike buttons again for the rest of the fight. They&#8217;d &#8216;write over&#8217; your powerful diseases with less powerful ones.<br />
As Gravity has pointed out, there really isn&#8217;t a rotation for this. There&#8217;s a priority:<br />
1. Make sure to refresh diseases with pestilence, preferably within about a second of them expiring, but also right before you have to target switch or you get knocked out of melee range.<br />
2. Scourge Strike spam<br />
3. Death Coil if capped<br />
4. Blood Strike any blood rune not reserved for pestilence.<br />
5. Bone Shield should be refreshed when it expires (I usually blood tap immediately after to not lose that unholy rune for my next Scourge Strike)<br />
6. Horn of Winter if you have an empty global cooldown &#8211; for the runic power.<br />
 <br />
If you&#8217;ve read my blog, you&#8217;ll see that I really like this spec. I find I&#8217;m doing very comparable dps on single target fights like heroic Northrend Beasts to the &#8216;classic&#8217; blood single target dps, and if there&#8217;s even one add, this is considerably superior.<br />
 <br />
 <br />
Gravity, I like my comment, so I think I&#8217;m going to paste it in my blog as well. Thanks for bringing this up <img src='http://pwnwear.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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