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		<title>By: Wraithwail(caelsetraz)</title>
		<link>http://pwnwear.com/2009/11/10/the-end-of-loser-dks/comment-page-2/#comment-2237</link>
		<dc:creator>Wraithwail(caelsetraz)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to be quite honest i am tired of nooby people playing the deathknight. whenever i enter a raid as mt or ot i always get shitand they think they need to tell me i need to keep the healer safe. ive known to keep the healer while i was tanking on my dwarven warrior in bc. im willing to bet if i was playing my warrior that stereotypical attitude would not have been taken with my class. i hope in cataclysm that we see a change in tone, to see my dk treated with respect as i earn it would be nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to be quite honest i am tired of nooby people playing the deathknight. whenever i enter a raid as mt or ot i always get shitand they think they need to tell me i need to keep the healer safe. ive known to keep the healer while i was tanking on my dwarven warrior in bc. im willing to bet if i was playing my warrior that stereotypical attitude would not have been taken with my class. i hope in cataclysm that we see a change in tone, to see my dk treated with respect as i earn it would be nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Jib (formerly Super Noob!)</title>
		<link>http://pwnwear.com/2009/11/10/the-end-of-loser-dks/comment-page-1/#comment-2001</link>
		<dc:creator>Jib (formerly Super Noob!)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 02:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, i would have to say that there seem to be a lot of DK noobs, but no, it doesn&#039;t bug me that they are noobs are that they are DKs... What bugs me is that they make no effort to improve what they are trying to achieve... I mean, we where all noobs at once, and as far as im concerned we all have plenty of room to learn more and improve. Noobs will always be here, only thing we can do is hope that we will get more of those that are willing to improve themself (either by trying to take advice from others and improve themself, or by not being so full of themselfs that they wont take advice from a more &quot;seasoned&quot; player... that just &quot;might&quot; know what they are talking about lol)
And personally as far as im concerned that if Cata makes it so much easier for people to roll alts, i think it will just increase the amount of noobish people (wanting to try new things without true effort to be good/great at the class). only way that we will really tell is when cata comes out and the noobs come about at lvl 85 hehe :) ill just keep my fingers crossed till then hopeing for non-fail (note not noob, but fail :P) players (all not just DKs lol)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, i would have to say that there seem to be a lot of DK noobs, but no, it doesn&#8217;t bug me that they are noobs are that they are DKs&#8230; What bugs me is that they make no effort to improve what they are trying to achieve&#8230; I mean, we where all noobs at once, and as far as im concerned we all have plenty of room to learn more and improve. Noobs will always be here, only thing we can do is hope that we will get more of those that are willing to improve themself (either by trying to take advice from others and improve themself, or by not being so full of themselfs that they wont take advice from a more &#8220;seasoned&#8221; player&#8230; that just &#8220;might&#8221; know what they are talking about lol)<br />
And personally as far as im concerned that if Cata makes it so much easier for people to roll alts, i think it will just increase the amount of noobish people (wanting to try new things without true effort to be good/great at the class). only way that we will really tell is when cata comes out and the noobs come about at lvl 85 hehe <img src='http://pwnwear.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ill just keep my fingers crossed till then hopeing for non-fail (note not noob, but fail <img src='http://pwnwear.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> ) players (all not just DKs lol)</p>
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		<title>By: Shadovar</title>
		<link>http://pwnwear.com/2009/11/10/the-end-of-loser-dks/comment-page-1/#comment-2000</link>
		<dc:creator>Shadovar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 00:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Guild had a seething hatred for DKs after many, many bad experiences with them. I had a similar opinion for a long time until I asked myself &quot;Is it DK that is inherently bad or does it just attract the worst kind of morons in the WoW playerbase. So I took the time to get to know a few DK players and read up on any and all articles I could find on the net related to playing a DK well. 

I&#039;m now top DPS in my guild and an integral part of our raiding group as we mostly do 10mans with a heavily magic/disease damage mix. (Naturally I play Unholy for DPS, it&#039;s just too insane to pass up)

My next goal is to prove that DKs can be effective tanks to the Guild, and I&#039;m nearly raid ready with my gearing (We seem to have a strict ProtWarrior/Tankadin bias, Bears and DKs need not apply... )

But it is a long, uphill battle for respect after the bad name Death Knoobs give DK players. It takes me an age to get respect outside the Guild and get into non-guild raids. I hope the OP is correct and we can see Death Knoobs weened out to make life a bit more bearable for the rest of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Guild had a seething hatred for DKs after many, many bad experiences with them. I had a similar opinion for a long time until I asked myself &#8220;Is it DK that is inherently bad or does it just attract the worst kind of morons in the WoW playerbase. So I took the time to get to know a few DK players and read up on any and all articles I could find on the net related to playing a DK well. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m now top DPS in my guild and an integral part of our raiding group as we mostly do 10mans with a heavily magic/disease damage mix. (Naturally I play Unholy for DPS, it&#8217;s just too insane to pass up)</p>
<p>My next goal is to prove that DKs can be effective tanks to the Guild, and I&#8217;m nearly raid ready with my gearing (We seem to have a strict ProtWarrior/Tankadin bias, Bears and DKs need not apply&#8230; )</p>
<p>But it is a long, uphill battle for respect after the bad name Death Knoobs give DK players. It takes me an age to get respect outside the Guild and get into non-guild raids. I hope the OP is correct and we can see Death Knoobs weened out to make life a bit more bearable for the rest of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Dellius</title>
		<link>http://pwnwear.com/2009/11/10/the-end-of-loser-dks/comment-page-1/#comment-1268</link>
		<dc:creator>Dellius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you have against newbie Death Knights ? You hate the fact they are Death Knights or the fact they are newbies ? What difference would it make if the newbies were evenly distributed between classes ? 

Most people prior to patch 3.3 learned how to do dungeons and raids at level 80, and newbies with pure DPS classes outperform newbies with hybrid classes most of the time, which is why we have an excess of DPS players and hunger for tanks and healers. Being a hybrid is harder in the long run, especially when you do something responsible like tanking or healing and you know it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you have against newbie Death Knights ? You hate the fact they are Death Knights or the fact they are newbies ? What difference would it make if the newbies were evenly distributed between classes ? </p>
<p>Most people prior to patch 3.3 learned how to do dungeons and raids at level 80, and newbies with pure DPS classes outperform newbies with hybrid classes most of the time, which is why we have an excess of DPS players and hunger for tanks and healers. Being a hybrid is harder in the long run, especially when you do something responsible like tanking or healing and you know it.</p>
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		<title>By: Gravity</title>
		<link>http://pwnwear.com/2009/11/10/the-end-of-loser-dks/comment-page-1/#comment-1004</link>
		<dc:creator>Gravity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks TRM (your name is so hard to spell); Feist mentioned this too and I raised a ticket today. Thanks for letting me know; it&#039;s not common knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks TRM (your name is so hard to spell); Feist mentioned this too and I raised a ticket today. Thanks for letting me know; it&#8217;s not common knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: Elnoriah</title>
		<link>http://pwnwear.com/2009/11/10/the-end-of-loser-dks/comment-page-1/#comment-1001</link>
		<dc:creator>Elnoriah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Death Knight is going to be 85 and Tanked on until I feel like DPSing. (Improbable!) My Mage will most likely follow up behind, and possibly a Goblin Rogue/Troll Druid if I actually like them enough.

I doubt my Characters are going to change much.

As for the Death Knuggets, there will probably still be tons. &quot;Zomg Worgen + DK = amazing!?!?&quot; 

Blizz needs to do IQ tests before one is to create a DK. Seriously...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Death Knight is going to be 85 and Tanked on until I feel like DPSing. (Improbable!) My Mage will most likely follow up behind, and possibly a Goblin Rogue/Troll Druid if I actually like them enough.</p>
<p>I doubt my Characters are going to change much.</p>
<p>As for the Death Knuggets, there will probably still be tons. &#8220;Zomg Worgen + DK = amazing!?!?&#8221; </p>
<p>Blizz needs to do IQ tests before one is to create a DK. Seriously&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Renaissance Man</title>
		<link>http://pwnwear.com/2009/11/10/the-end-of-loser-dks/comment-page-1/#comment-995</link>
		<dc:creator>The Renaissance Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s something my guild&#039;s top mage found out when he wanted to change his name. If the placeholder is a level 1 inactive character, if you open a GM ticket, the GM will free up that name for your use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s something my guild&#8217;s top mage found out when he wanted to change his name. If the placeholder is a level 1 inactive character, if you open a GM ticket, the GM will free up that name for your use.</p>
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		<title>By: brangwen</title>
		<link>http://pwnwear.com/2009/11/10/the-end-of-loser-dks/comment-page-1/#comment-993</link>
		<dc:creator>brangwen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My badger is awesome.  He tanks both the twins in 25 hardmode at the same time and is easy to keep alive.
No, you can&#039;t have him!  He&#039;s mine!
We have 2 bear tanks, 1 DK tank and 2 pally tanks at the moment.  Our MT of several years retired from tanking on his warrior, and we are actually missing a warrior tank for the first time like... ever!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My badger is awesome.  He tanks both the twins in 25 hardmode at the same time and is easy to keep alive.<br />
No, you can&#8217;t have him!  He&#8217;s mine!<br />
We have 2 bear tanks, 1 DK tank and 2 pally tanks at the moment.  Our MT of several years retired from tanking on his warrior, and we are actually missing a warrior tank for the first time like&#8230; ever!</p>
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		<title>By: Gravity</title>
		<link>http://pwnwear.com/2009/11/10/the-end-of-loser-dks/comment-page-1/#comment-987</link>
		<dc:creator>Gravity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I remember reading your PTR blog entry about learning/remembering how to bear-tank, on the job, was pretty funny. I guess you&#039;ve really taken to it eh?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember reading your PTR blog entry about learning/remembering how to bear-tank, on the job, was pretty funny. I guess you&#8217;ve really taken to it eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Psynister</title>
		<link>http://pwnwear.com/2009/11/10/the-end-of-loser-dks/comment-page-1/#comment-986</link>
		<dc:creator>Psynister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate Death Knoobs with a passion.
But, I&#039;m not sure that Cat is going to reduce the number of DK&#039;s that we see. In fact, I wouldn&#039;t be surprised to see an increase as people jump over to fresh servers, roll a DK for gold/gear, and then level up their alts.
I don&#039;t know what&#039;s going to happen for sure, but I don&#039;t expect to see an end of the Death Knoobs any time soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate Death Knoobs with a passion.<br />
But, I&#8217;m not sure that Cat is going to reduce the number of DK&#8217;s that we see. In fact, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised to see an increase as people jump over to fresh servers, roll a DK for gold/gear, and then level up their alts.<br />
I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s going to happen for sure, but I don&#8217;t expect to see an end of the Death Knoobs any time soon.</p>
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