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		<title>By: xorellion</title>
		<link>http://pwnwear.com/2009/11/11/warriors-from-the-swiss-army-dks-from-lego/comment-page-1/#comment-2231</link>
		<dc:creator>xorellion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So many people are caught up with counting their DPS, not realizing that there&#039;s other models that make downing a boss easier. Like sunder armor, etc... Making something MORE vulnerable to an attack benefits the overall goal of the group (killing the boss). I spend my time thinking of logical approaches to winning, rather than watching some damn counter. &quot;dude, your DPS is low&quot;... I&#039;m sorry it&#039;s not 50,000 DPS.. There&#039;s a lot more calculations than just DPS, that affect damage, etc. I have a warlock, I like curse of the elements. Sure, I could have casted another curse to benefit only my DPS, but then again... I take in to consideration the player classes around me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many people are caught up with counting their DPS, not realizing that there&#8217;s other models that make downing a boss easier. Like sunder armor, etc&#8230; Making something MORE vulnerable to an attack benefits the overall goal of the group (killing the boss). I spend my time thinking of logical approaches to winning, rather than watching some damn counter. &#8220;dude, your DPS is low&#8221;&#8230; I&#8217;m sorry it&#8217;s not 50,000 DPS.. There&#8217;s a lot more calculations than just DPS, that affect damage, etc. I have a warlock, I like curse of the elements. Sure, I could have casted another curse to benefit only my DPS, but then again&#8230; I take in to consideration the player classes around me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: xorellion</title>
		<link>http://pwnwear.com/2009/11/11/warriors-from-the-swiss-army-dks-from-lego/comment-page-1/#comment-2230</link>
		<dc:creator>xorellion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing stings worse than a healer saying &quot;Great.. A DK tank&quot; and leaving the instance. Funny thing is, dude leaves and I tank through HoR effortlessly. I win, and he will forever be remembered as a tool. Death Knights are not synonymous with &quot;paper tanks&quot;... and when I tell people I am a blood tank, they get all emo on me. &quot;Frost is THE tanking spec&quot;... Seriously? I hold aggro, I don&#039;t take too much damage and I do more DPS while tanking than some of the bozos who end up in my group. I hold anger towards Blizzard for creating a hero class, and under-selling it, by making paladins and warriors have more survivability. If I get told, one more time that a paladin is the best tank, I will scream. It&#039;s not about the class you chose as much as it is about knowing how to play &quot;the class you chose&quot;.... I&#039;m bitter. I know. Not because I&#039;m a Death Knight; Because I am a Death Knight surrounded by tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing stings worse than a healer saying &#8220;Great.. A DK tank&#8221; and leaving the instance. Funny thing is, dude leaves and I tank through HoR effortlessly. I win, and he will forever be remembered as a tool. Death Knights are not synonymous with &#8220;paper tanks&#8221;&#8230; and when I tell people I am a blood tank, they get all emo on me. &#8220;Frost is THE tanking spec&#8221;&#8230; Seriously? I hold aggro, I don&#8217;t take too much damage and I do more DPS while tanking than some of the bozos who end up in my group. I hold anger towards Blizzard for creating a hero class, and under-selling it, by making paladins and warriors have more survivability. If I get told, one more time that a paladin is the best tank, I will scream. It&#8217;s not about the class you chose as much as it is about knowing how to play &#8220;the class you chose&#8221;&#8230;. I&#8217;m bitter. I know. Not because I&#8217;m a Death Knight; Because I am a Death Knight surrounded by tools.</p>
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		<title>By: Super Noob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Super Noob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 23:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Compleately agree, Though some people fail to relize that some things that they &quot;Know&quot; (think really) lowers their DPS or whatever dont relize that it may only lower their DPS by 20 or so where as raising the entire Raid/Groups by 300-400. Just saying cause i have ran personally with Rouges who are so against Exposeing armor even though they have plenting of time to do it, cause &quot;it will lower my DPS too much&quot;... where as when im on my rogue i can expose armor and still end in 2nd or 1st DPS (with my Crud gear) Everything the Group does should really be situational depending on what else is in the group and what fight you are on. at least thats my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Compleately agree, Though some people fail to relize that some things that they &#8220;Know&#8221; (think really) lowers their DPS or whatever dont relize that it may only lower their DPS by 20 or so where as raising the entire Raid/Groups by 300-400. Just saying cause i have ran personally with Rouges who are so against Exposeing armor even though they have plenting of time to do it, cause &#8220;it will lower my DPS too much&#8221;&#8230; where as when im on my rogue i can expose armor and still end in 2nd or 1st DPS (with my Crud gear) Everything the Group does should really be situational depending on what else is in the group and what fight you are on. at least thats my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: noob</title>
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		<dc:creator>noob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 05:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;bring the player not the class&quot; is the key ;). I have played a warrior tank in Sunwell and now Death Knight tank in Icecrown. I have not seen a significant difference as a death knight tank. In fact it is with a death knight multiple abilities that I have improved so much of the game. 

Many people have probably forgotten who was the one tanking Heroic GV hardmode when the guild is stuck in progression. Its funny while so many range tank fail at Keleseth, I step up and we one shotted Blood prince council. And this is just an example, there are so many encounters where dk are good at. :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;bring the player not the class&#8221; is the key <img src='http://pwnwear.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> . I have played a warrior tank in Sunwell and now Death Knight tank in Icecrown. I have not seen a significant difference as a death knight tank. In fact it is with a death knight multiple abilities that I have improved so much of the game. </p>
<p>Many people have probably forgotten who was the one tanking Heroic GV hardmode when the guild is stuck in progression. Its funny while so many range tank fail at Keleseth, I step up and we one shotted Blood prince council. And this is just an example, there are so many encounters where dk are good at. :p</p>
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		<title>By: main5tream</title>
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		<dc:creator>main5tream</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 13:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s kind of the point of Blizzard&#039;s whole &quot;bring the player not the class&quot; agenda. Their goal is to make no class a requirement of a successful raid and while we might not positively outshine everyone in one particular category, we definitely are the jack of all trades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s kind of the point of Blizzard&#8217;s whole &#8220;bring the player not the class&#8221; agenda. Their goal is to make no class a requirement of a successful raid and while we might not positively outshine everyone in one particular category, we definitely are the jack of all trades.</p>
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		<title>By: Lasciell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lasciell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to resurrect an old post, but this seemed like the most related post topic to my question. Last night while cruising trade chat for a last chance monday night ICC10 run, I was turned down a tanking roll due to being a DK. The question from the raid leader was &quot;why bring a DK tank when any other tank can do as good, and usually better, in every roll?&quot;  It kind of bummed me out, because when I sit down and think about it, I actually have a tough time answering this question. We don&#039;t have the best AoE threat, or single target threat. We&#039;re also not the least squishy, and our raid buffs are easily duplicated by other raid members. At least that&#039;s how I feel right now. Please point out the error in my mindset here, and tell me &quot;what does a DK tank bring that other tanks can&#039;t?&quot;
.-= Lasciell´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.veilsend.com/2009/11/06/back-on-track/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Back on track&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to resurrect an old post, but this seemed like the most related post topic to my question. Last night while cruising trade chat for a last chance monday night ICC10 run, I was turned down a tanking roll due to being a DK. The question from the raid leader was &#8220;why bring a DK tank when any other tank can do as good, and usually better, in every roll?&#8221;  It kind of bummed me out, because when I sit down and think about it, I actually have a tough time answering this question. We don&#8217;t have the best AoE threat, or single target threat. We&#8217;re also not the least squishy, and our raid buffs are easily duplicated by other raid members. At least that&#8217;s how I feel right now. Please point out the error in my mindset here, and tell me &#8220;what does a DK tank bring that other tanks can&#8217;t?&#8221;<br />
<span class="cluv"> Lasciell´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.veilsend.com/2009/11/06/back-on-track/" rel="nofollow">Back on track</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://pwnwear.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Gravity</title>
		<link>http://pwnwear.com/2009/11/11/warriors-from-the-swiss-army-dks-from-lego/comment-page-1/#comment-1040</link>
		<dc:creator>Gravity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;DKs are a big mean tank too, maybe maintankadin&#039;s are a few % bigger but &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;not &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;DK=fail.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DKs are a big mean tank too, maybe maintankadin&#8217;s are a few % bigger but <strong><em>not </em></strong>DK=fail.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenshi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah

but this is the explanation 

I think its a Fair analogy as dks can change into diffrent roles easier with just a respec, Where as paladins are set in stone to what that are good/bad at.

I know you can only stretch a metaphor to a limited degree, but seems fitting as you basically always want a big mean tank with a huge cannon and 12 inch armor in todays wow. The small tanks gets to drive around in the forests and once in a while shoot their cannon, but the big one is what wins the battles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah</p>
<p>but this is the explanation </p>
<p>I think its a Fair analogy as dks can change into diffrent roles easier with just a respec, Where as paladins are set in stone to what that are good/bad at.</p>
<p>I know you can only stretch a metaphor to a limited degree, but seems fitting as you basically always want a big mean tank with a huge cannon and 12 inch armor in todays wow. The small tanks gets to drive around in the forests and once in a while shoot their cannon, but the big one is what wins the battles.</p>
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		<title>By: Gravity</title>
		<link>http://pwnwear.com/2009/11/11/warriors-from-the-swiss-army-dks-from-lego/comment-page-1/#comment-1037</link>
		<dc:creator>Gravity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That&#039;s so mean :(&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s so mean <img src='http://pwnwear.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kenshi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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