Comments on: Frost tank spec in 3.3

By: Be careful what you wish for « Ethermead

Be careful what you wish for « Ethermead — Fri, 18 Jun 2010 00:48:33 +0000

[...] specs… I just need to do it. Thanks to a helpful link from @bossypally, I’ve found an article that doesn’t badmouth frost the entire way through. Yes, I want to tank Frost. I’m [...]

By: Gravity

Gravity — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:25:14 +0000

yah, never compare your threat to that of a pally. They own threat.

By: Instructions

Instructions — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:07:11 +0000

I missed that part! I’m sorry!
I think we can totally conclude the following: Paladin tanks are OP and should be nerfed to the ground. (okay, find, paladins are OP in general and should be nerfed to the ground… better?!) Not only are their cooldowns generally awesome, their passives are great, their threat generation is second to none, ARDENT DEFENDER LAWLMYGOD. I feel that people look to paladins, generally as the ‘end all be all tanking class’… even if it’s not true. My guild employs 2 (one being the GM…) a warrior and a druid… I only really tank 10 mans, generally… and, for some reason, as a paladin, the GM has an attitude that they’re, hands down the best? Why get a DK tank when you can get another paladin? Why get a druid tank if you can get another paladin? At least a warrior would help with sunders!

By: Vanyana

Vanyana — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:54:22 +0000

Thanks for the reply, I don’t really have a problem with threat so I guess I should just be happy with my 2k .
Yes awfully as I said I use 2 diseases on boss fights and have found power auras very useful in keeping track of the rime and killing machine procs – I have certainly been using obliterate as much as possible to trigger rime procs so looks like I just have to accept I’m not a pally tank that can put out ridiculous damage while tanking – at least dk tanks rule on rotface (I love that you can HB while running away from the slimes here)

By: Instructions

Instructions — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:05:52 +0000

You might also want to make sure you’re pressing the RIGHT attack at the RIGHT point. I.E. If you are Single Disease, really really really really really try to get as may oblits out as possible between refreshing HB.

Single Disease on Saurfang seems to be a bit of a gimp, as the strength of SD is aoe threat. If you are doing 2H, as I pointed out above, you’re not going to see the same amount of procs on Rime, so, make your damage do as much as possible… Add PS to your rotation, and then use the extra frost rune ever so often to Unbreakable Armor or Chains of Ice the Blood Beast, or… as i guess is more likely, reapply FF through IT over HB. You don’t ‘HAVE’ to follow the SD rotation with GoHB… because, most of the time, you replace GoHB with UA… which, doesn’t significantly change the rotation.

Next time you’re in the situation, try doing the 2 Disease rotation… focus on only using HB when Rime procs, and every other time you have an FU pair up, oblit… and when rime procs save it for a moment you have to use CoI or UA (as you get like 30 seconds to use it up), and then use CoI/UA + PS for another FU pair that saves you 2 runes.

By: Gravity

Gravity — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:17:22 +0000

DPS is about right for that level, I think, because it is threat that matters more. Do you have more threat than your deeps, or are you a glass ceiling for them? I did 1.8K dps on Saurfang last week. Runestrikes and Frost Presence generate a lot of threat.

By: Vanyana

Vanyana — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:43:14 +0000

Can’t seem to find much info on this but I am main spec dpswiyh a off spec 2H frost tank spec (HB glyphed single disease although I use 2 diseases on bosses) which I am using more and more, I like frost for being the middle man allowing me to aoe and single target tank while keeping a dps spec (the other dk tank in guild has two tank specs – unholy and blood) but I find that the dps I put out is really quite low (ok I know as long as I keep aggro, and I do, I should be happy), I’m not expecting to keep up with a pally tank in icc where the mobs are undead (our main pally tank puts out 5/6k) but putting out 2k dps on a boss fight just seems low to me – am I wrong or do I just need to loose my dps mentality. Are there ways to increase my damage by swapping talents etc (I am hit capped etc with mainly 251 ilvl gear).

By: Gravity

Gravity — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:14:11 +0000

Because the OP is a two-handed Frost post.

By: Wastewalker

Wastewalker — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:58:35 +0000

Why in ur optimal frost tank spec this DIDNT you put anything into Nerves of Cold Steel? it adds 3% hit with 1h weapons and increases Offhand dmg by 15%. if you DW tank of course.

By: ColdSake

ColdSake — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 05:15:26 +0000

My question is, if I’m doing DW frost SD rotation, applying only FF with HB to an aoe, do i still need glyph of pest, since i already aoe apply the disease? also why is Imp icy touch so helpful, since I will hardly ever be casting IT.