I was watching the interview series celebrating 5 years of Wow and 15 of Warcraft. (I’d never played Warcraft, saw it a few times over shoulders, but RTS never grabbed me).
Frank Pearce (he’s a co-founder) reminded me of something I’d forgotten about raiding: the advantage of having an experienced raid mentor. He talked about Molten Core, hear from him here if you’d like, and how on his own guild’s first attempt at MC they had someone help them out.
Someone who’d been there before, had some experience and success, and was imparting that knowledge to 39 others.
So. Unless you raided 40-mans or played Everquest, this might be a surprise: people didn’t know how to raid. You would literally zone in and become really unsure of yourself, then these two massive molten giants would wipe your raid before you’ve really got out of the first corner.
We had a friend Grulfruidian mentor us. He taught us to raid, acted like a mentor to the tanks, taught us the line to walk through MC, which mobs to kill, in what order, which pats to watch out for, and how to kill the first few bosses.
Edited post, couldn’t remember Grulf’s name at first.
Kenco also had an emo at some point months later for some drama queen reason, something about his brother Lukon not getting an invite, so spat his dummy.
Anyhow, the point is nowadays people don’t tend to look for or use a mentor. It’s all so common knowledge, with youtube videos, normalisation of raiding as an experience, as opposed to being something so lofty and difficult that it required 40 bloody people.
Damn the logistics were a pain back then, but it was pretty epic. Had some bosses like Baron Geddon where you’d kill everyone if you didn’t move. Positioning 40 people in a circle around Shazzrah was a frustration, and people had to learn to run into the middle when he blinked onto them. Familiar mechanics to today’s fights, eh. People failed then, as now.
10-man raiding is a fantastic change, and I cheered for it on announcement, and I wouldn’t undo it or anything, but am making the point about how much the WoW community has matured that we can take raiding for granted now.
What happens is instead: people zone into a raid thinking it’s just another 5-man instance, and totally suck ass. They pull agro. They stand in fire. They talk on /g or /ra the whole time, blah blah. They talk back to the RL, question commands, issue their own counter-commands without authority, don’t come prepared, complain about the request to prepare, whinge about the cost of wiping and so on.
Raiding isn’t the same as a 5-man, there is less of a demarcation than there used to be when 40 people were required, but there is a difference. Having a mentor can help but that does seem to be a bit of the past, too.
Also, I wanted to complain about new raiders who don’t realise they’re doing something new, and consequently cause problems for others, don’t realise how good they’ve got it, was much harder in the old days; so I can rattle on a bit about being an old bastard.